[Watchdogs] An observant eye only
billc_lists at greenbuilder.com
Thu Jul 31 00:53:15 CDT 2008
At 6:46 PM -0500 7/30/08, joesummy at moment.net wrote:
>I have never heard of Radiance, except from another Core/Group member...I
>do know the name of the PR firm which you can find as easily and confirm
>it as I did.
Cite your source and state the name of the PR firm. Stop beating
around the bush.
I can tell you that I have never heard of any money going from PEC4U
- which, I remind you doesn't even have a bank account - to any PR
firm. And I'm pretty up on what PEC4U has been doing.
Lord only knows how you're connecting the two, but I personally had
never heard of a RadiancePR.com group until I heard that you thought
they were working for us. And then I did a google search to try to
figure out how in the blazes you thought that. Did you happen to
notice that they charge in english pounds? ;-) Kind of out of our
Like I said earlier, you're so completely off base on this one that
>As a Core/Member you know that I have documents concerning the group's
>strategic planning. I don't have to spin anything plus along with the
>documents I have primary sources.
Cite them. By name. That's all I'm asking. No more of this vague
"I seem to have heard" BS. Either you can come up with something
solid, or you might as well be making it up.
So, where EXACTLY did you hear that PEC4U hired a PR firm? Who was
the PR firm? Where did the money come from?
Though there may have been some early email discussion about the
*possiblity* of hiring a PR firm (which anyone including you can look
up in the documents of record related to the lawsuit, which included
email records), no PR firm was ever hired. It was dismissed as
impractical and financially far out of reach, if I remember correctly.
>Keep the spin.
Says the pot to the kettle.
These comments apply to all your other allegations as well. You
think the Congressional Committee has somewhere said that it's a
local problem? I think you misread or misheard that, or extracted a
stray comment out of context. Prove otherwise.
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