[Watchdogs] Bennie and Bud
CBMassmann at aol.com
CBMassmann at aol.com
Tue Sep 2 20:36:11 CDT 2008
In a message dated 9/2/2008 5:12:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
davidf at prismnet.com writes:
What is in the best interests of the members is to see justice brought to
criminals who ran this coop as their personal fiefdom for 30 years.
This is a statement of your opinion. If they are convicted as criminals they
will see the justice you and I want. When it comes to civil litigation, I
suggest that we defer to the Board and management. (cbm)
What you and others seem to so conveniently forget is none of these changes
would even be occurring if it wasn't for the lawsuit.
I have not forgot. The changes include new management and a board with two
out of three newly elected members who voted against your position and in the
best interest as they saw it. (cbm)
Just wait till we,the members, get the others seats and real control of OUR
COOP.
I'll wait. Hopefully more everyday members will vote and the board will be
truly representative of the membership. While waiting I'll support what
appears to be the good judgement of the new management and a majority of the
board. Will you wait? (cbm)
When that happens,these types of conversations will melt away.
When the members get the other seats will your "conversations melt away"
(1) even if your slate isn't elected? and (2) when the majority of the board
doesn't agree with you? (cbm)
We are not ratepayers,we are members !!!!!
We are both - and most of us are interested in rates we pay and the contin
uing of excellent service levels. I'll leave justice to God and the courts.
(cbm)
David E. Friedman
TAG Polymers
P.O. Box 711
Burnet,Tx. 78611
512-756-4633
512-219-4007 fax
512-423-7824 cell
_www.tagpolymers.com_ (http://www.tagpolymers.com/)
----- Original Message -----
From: _CBMassmann at aol.com_ (mailto:CBMassmann at aol.com)
To: _mlmoden at texas-skies.com_ (mailto:mlmoden at texas-skies.com)
Cc: _juan.garza at peci.com_ (mailto:juan.garza at peci.com) ;
_watchdogs at pec4u.org_ (mailto:watchdogs at pec4u.org) ; _troy.fraser at senate.state.tx.us_
(mailto:troy.fraser at senate.state.tx.us) ; _patrick.rose at house.state.tx.us_
(mailto:patrick.rose at house.state.tx.us)
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Watchdogs] Bennie and Bud
I would suggest that we give the new management, the board and law
enforcement a chance. If civil litigation is the only option available and it is in
the best interest of the ratepayers as determined by management and a properly
elected board, I would support it. I do not support the notion of civil
litigation to get even with someone even if it is a hollow victory for the
ratepayers, management and employees of the COOP.
c b massmann
In a message dated 9/2/2008 3:43:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
_mlmoden at texas-skies.com_ (mailto:mlmoden at texas-skies.com) writes:
Mr. Massman:
We trusted the previous Board, previous management and law enforcement
to do their jobs for several decades. What did that get us?
What violations of the Texas Penal Code will be found by the various
investigations? Playing fast and loose with the ratepayers money under
the authority granted by the Board bylaws may not be prosecutable. If
civil litigation is the only option available to us to get justice, will
you still oppose its use?
Thanks.
Mr. Merle L. Moden
CBMassmann at aol.com wrote:
> Most rate payers did not vote in the last board election and don't
> attend board meetings. They trust the board, management and law
> enforcement to do their jobs. Rate payers are primarily interested in
> electricity service and its costs. Why don't you let the board,
> management and law enforcement do their jobs?
>
> I am not in favor of law breakers not being punished. If former
> management is found guilty of breaking the law by a jury trial they
> will not get off "scot- free". If civil litigation drags out it will
> costs ratepayers both in the costs of the litigation and the
> diversion of management and the board from the primary functions of
> the COOP. Management and the majority of the board have set forth good
> reasons for their position and they have standing. I believe they
> should be supported!
>
> In a message dated 8/27/2008 10:13:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> mlmoden at texas-skies.com writes:
>
> Mr. Massman:
>
> On what basis do you assume that most ratepayers support letting the
> scoundrels off scot-free?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mr. Merle L. Moden
>
>
> CBMassmann at aol.com wrote:
> >
> > *_All very one sided!_* Why no quote of Mr. Garza's statement
> as to
> > why he has taken his position on the settlement. Are there no
> > benefits in accepting the settlement for the PEC rate payers and
> > employees? WE LIVE IN A GREAT COUNTRY WHERE THE FEW CAN BE HEARD -
> > but they need to remember they are THE FEW and should be
> considerate
> > of THE MOST (rate payers and employees).
> >
> > In a message dated 8/19/2008 8:25:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > mhawkins at tstar.net writes:
> >
> > Friends,
> >
> > I’m copying below a comment I just posted on the
> > Austin American-Statesman web site below the story running this
> > morning about the Board and Texland. Check the site for a
> number
> > of other reader reactions:
> >
> >
> http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/0
8/19/0819pec.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=52
> >
>
<http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/08/19/0819pec.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=52>
> >
> >
> >
> > Milton
> >
>
<http://www.statesman.com/sitelife/content/sitelife/persona.html?newspaperUserId=1582414&plckUserId=1582414>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Let's not forget that Bennie and Bud didn't run PEC all by
> > themselves. In addition to a willing and compliant Board of
> > Directors, they were aided by two assistant general
> managers, one
> > of whom stills holds that position at PEC.
> >
> > Last year, according to PEC's filed Form 990's, one assistant
> > general manager received $274,640 in compensation, including a
> > Christmas bonus from Bennie of $18,750; the other received
> > $247,978 in compensation, including a Christmas bonus from
> Bennie
> > of $17,850. In addition, one received $26,118 in
> contributions to
> > employee benefit plans; the other received $27,112 in
> > contributions to employee benefit plans.
> >
> > Has anyone thought to ask the current employee and the former
> > employee two important questions: What did you know? and
> When did
> > you know it?
> >
> > And if the answers come back, "I didn't know anything," doesn't
> > that sound just like something Bud Burnett said in his
> deposition?
> > In their top, well-paid management positions, they either
> knew or
> > should have known.
> >
> > If we can stop Mr. Garza's (the Board majority's) efforts to
> kill
> > the Hall appeal of the judgment in the case, we might have a
> > chance to reform the settlement agreement, stripping out the
> > immunity from civil actions the settlement provides Bennie
> and Bud
> > and all the rest, including the defendant directors and their
> > attorneys and advisors.
> >
> > In addition, the current assistant general manager who
> worked with
> > Bennie should be shown the door, regardless of her level of
> > knowledge, and then held accountable for any culpable acts or
> > failures to act on her part.
> >
> > 8/19/2008 8:12 AM CDT
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Milton Hawkins mhawkins at tstar.net
> > <mailto:mhawkins at tstar.net> 830-868-9075
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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