[Watchdogs] Small Users Pay More per Kilowatt

Fri May 8 19:11:44 CDT 2009

"I used about 158 KW for the mild weather month ending April 19th.  My bill
is about $53. due to the average billing program.  The AVERAGE cost per KW
is about 33 cents.  Al"

Al - if you consume ten more KWH how much would your bill increase?

Mark

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From: watchdogs-bounces at pec4u.org [mailto:watchdogs-bounces at pec4u.org] On
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Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 11:47 AM
To: watchdogs at pec4u.org
Subject: [Watchdogs] Small Users Pay More per Kilowatt

I used about 158 KW for the mild weather month ending April 19th.  My bill
is about $53. due to the average billing program.  The cost per KW is about
33 cents.  Al

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> 1. Electric rates going up for the small guys, down for the big
> users (Paul Langston)
> 2. Re: Electric rates going up for the small guys, down for the
> big users (Williams, Mark (San Antonio))
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:05:41 -0500
> From: "Paul Langston" <langston at zeecon.com>
> Subject: [Watchdogs] Electric rates going up for the small guys, down
> for the big users
> To: "PEC Watchdogs" <Watchdogs at PEC4u.org>
> Message-ID: <3F98D806174842079F68CBA3DCDE9D28 at langston>
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> Watchdogs:
> I downloaded the Board Package for May 11, 2009.
> You may remember the first talk by the Guernsey Rate Specialists last year
sometime. He said that the bulk of the increased rate structure would fall
on the small guys.
> That is exactly how the proposed rate increase reads. 
> They jack the numbers around but here is the way the mop flops:
> At about 1,000 kwh useage, the price is the same.
> below 1000 kwh, the rate goes up. Using 750 KWH, the price per KWH goes
from 13.35 cents up to 13.42 cents/kwh.
> Using 500 kwn, the price goes up from 14.62 up to 14.92 cents per kwh.
> Using 250 KWH the price really goes up, 18.68 up to 19.42 cents per KWH.
> Using only 100 KWHs the price goes from 30.68 cents up to 32.92 cents per
KWH.
> If you use only 50 KWH per month, the price goes from 50.68 cents up to
55.42 cents per KWH. 
> 
> That is not good but the real insult is that if you are a big user, the
rate starts going down. For the average user, at 1,271 KWHs, your cost goes
down from 12.25 cents down to 12.19 cents.
> If you are running a big house here in HSB like a lot of my neighbors,
3,000 KWHs goes from 12.11 cents down to 11.17 cents per KWH.
> 
> The same old story, the little users are subsidizing the big users. There
is little incentive to cut back on consumption because the rate goes up for
those using less than 1,000 kwh per month. No change. Did we need this
half-million dollar consultant study to continue the status quo? 
> 
> The Magnificent four, no doubt will pass this into their rate schedule. No
doubt, the two new guys that we elected will string along with their new
found friends. JUAN, we just gotta have a little talk.
> 
> Paul Langston 830-598-1322 
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> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 09:06:40 -0500
> From: "Williams, Mark (San Antonio)" <Mark.Williams at valero.com>
> Subject: Re: [Watchdogs] Electric rates going up for the small guys,
> down for the big users
> To: Paul Langston <langston at zeecon.com>, PEC Watchdogs
> <Watchdogs at pec4u.org>
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> You know Paul, you like to work the data to support you position.
> 
> Here is what happens:
> 
> If you consume 1,000 KWH in a month, your cost will be $126.70
> If you consume 750 KWH in a month, your cost will be $100.65 or $26.05
less or $0.1042 per KWH
> If you consume 500 KWH in a month, your cost will be $ 74.60 or $26.05
less or $0.1042 per KWH
> If you consume 250 KWH in a month, your cost will be $ 48.55 or $26.05
less or $0.1042 per KWH
> If you consume 100 KWH in a month, your cost will be $ 32.92 or $15.63
less or $0.1042 per KWH
> If you consume 50 KWH in a month, your cost will be $ 27.71 or $ 5.21 less
or $0.1042 per KWH
> 
> 
> 
> Let's look at the "big house" in HSB
> 
> If you consume 1,271 KWH in a month your cost will be $154.90
> If you consume 3,000 KWH in a month your cost will be $335.10 or $180.20
more or $0.1042 per KWH
> 
> Looks like to me if you consume less you pay less at the same rate as
everyone else. Sounds fair to me.
> 
> Using Average Cost like you have is an erroneous way to look at this. To
have average cost the same regardless of consumption is a way to subsidize
in the same class of customer the low power consumers at the expense of the
high power consumers. Sound socialist to me.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: watchdogs-bounces at pec4u.org [mailto:watchdogs-bounces at pec4u.org] On
Behalf Of Paul Langston
> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 8:06 AM
> To: PEC Watchdogs
> Subject: [Watchdogs] Electric rates going up for the small guys, down for
the big users
> 
> Watchdogs:
> I downloaded the Board Package for May 11, 2009.
> You may remember the first talk by the Guernsey Rate Specialists last year
sometime. He said that the bulk of the increased rate structure would fall
on the small guys.
> That is exactly how the proposed rate increase reads.
> They jack the numbers around but here is the way the mop flops:
> At about 1,000 kwh useage, the price is the same.
> below 1000 kwh, the rate goes up. Using 750 KWH, the price per KWH goes
from 13.35 cents up to 13.42 cents/kwh.
> Using 500 kwn, the price goes up from 14.62 up to 14.92 cents per kwh.
> Using 250 KWH the price really goes up, 18.68 up to 19.42 cents per KWH.
> Using only 100 KWHs the price goes from 30.68 cents up to 32.92 cents per
KWH.
> If you use only 50 KWH per month, the price goes from 50.68 cents up to
55.42 cents per KWH.
> 
> That is not good but the real insult is that if you are a big user, the
rate starts going down. For the average user, at 1,271 KWHs, your cost goes
down from 12.25 cents down to 12.19 cents.
> If you are running a big house here in HSB like a lot of my neighbors,
3,000 KWHs goes from 12.11 cents down to 11.17 cents per KWH.
> 
> The same old story, the little users are subsidizing the big users. There
is little incentive to cut back on consumption because the rate goes up for
those using less than 1,000 kwh per month. No change. Did we need this
half-million dollar consultant study to continue the status quo?
> 
> The Magnificent four, no doubt will pass this into their rate schedule. No
doubt, the two new guys that we elected will string along with their new
found friends. JUAN, we just gotta have a little talk.
> 
> Paul Langston 830-598-1322
> 
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